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Still Learning Soft Roader
Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 427 Location: Brisbane 6 months of the year
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: Double Blind, Independant test of ERPS |
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Is anyone aware of a report/s on the effectiveness of EPRS following a double blind, independently conducted, experiment?
Mate is considering one so I did a search and all the threads here are full of opinion (and everyone has one of those) or advertising hype. The people with an ERPS seem to only defend them and the people without them are several hundred bucks better off. The ERPS website has several Testimonials that I put in with the rest of the opinions hence my search for some scientific support for the claims of effectiveness.
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p38arover Spelling Bee Captain

Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 3830
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Overlander did an article on them some years back but they never did a follow-up which, to me, was a lost opportunity (or careful avoidance of an advertiser's product.
I wrote to them and asked for a follow-up article but as far as I'm aware it never happened.
I'm afraid that until proven otherwise, it's snake oil.
Ron _________________ 1995 Range Rover HSE 4.6 litre |
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Ronin Soft Roader

Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 581
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Well, here's my testimonial,
I have an ERPS. I drove on the beach. I now have rust.
Draw your own conclusions while I sand and killrust my car next weekend.
Ronin.. _________________ - It is no coincidence that when you type 4wd with the shift key down you get $WD..
'04 Nissan Patrol GU 4.2tdi ST-L w/ mods. UPDATED 25/11 |
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AJ Desert Driver

Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 4124 Location: South Oz
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Ronin wrote: |
Well, here's my testimonial,
I have an ERPS. I drove on the beach. I now have rust.
Draw your own conclusions while I sand and killrust my car next weekend.
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Where's the rust Ronin?
Have you driven in salt water? Lots of boat launching?
I have a 99 GU, lots of boat launching (boat ramp not beach), lots and lots of beach driving, no ERPS and no real rust other than some minor surface stuff on chassis after scrapes. _________________ Patrol, Canon, Engel
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aldo Cape York Patroller

Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 5853 Location: just to the left of Shebangabang
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know of any tests BUT why don't you ring Parks and Wildlife and ask them if they use them on their beach run vehicles. They would give you an unbiased opinion.
Or you could believe me and I'll tell you they don't work because I have already asked them  _________________ Brisbane QLD. Nissan Patrol DX. |
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Attention City Slicker
Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 16 Location: Victoria
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| whats ERPS |
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p38arover Spelling Bee Captain

Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 3830
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Attention wrote: |
| whats ERPS |
Electronic Rust Prevention System _________________ 1995 Range Rover HSE 4.6 litre |
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DingoX City Slicker

Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 67 Location: S. E. Qld.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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ERPS
Personally I don't trust this system...I have heard to many bad stories. And I've had no rust problems with the old spray on over the years so why change. Then again I don't drive through salt water (plenty of beach driving) or back the 4WD into the water when I launch the boat. _________________ LandCruiser 100 4.2TD Oh What a Bloody Good Feeling!
TJM T13 Steel BullBar, Airtec Snorkel, GME TX3440 UHF. |
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Wholehog Grey Nomad

Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 21432 Location: Nth Brisbane...but anywhere...one day.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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If you keep out of the surf, and wet sand, driving on the beach is no diferent than driving or parking the Falcodore on an Esplanade... _________________ Andrew
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HZJ 105 poverty pack, dents and dirt.
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chopper Colossal Death Robot

Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 11532 Location: Hervey Bay
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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one of the hire mobs did a test a few years ago. (cars going to Fraser Island every day)
They got two new troopies on the same day, did a traditionaly stinky sticky rust proffing to one, ERPS to the other.
After just six months they new not to fit anymore ERPS! _________________ www.P7OFFROAD.com.au
Mary Valley - Landcruiser Park - Rainbow Beach
Accredited Offroad Driver Training
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Jeeeps Desert Driver

Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 3858 Location: QLD
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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I've got it, but i've also had it rustproofed and i get under it a few times a year and paint some killrust here and there on any bare bits. No rust  |
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Phoenix Kimberley Kruiser

Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 7311 Location: Launceston, Tas
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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lots of fishoil, or common sense, a bit of rindsing and some paint when needed should be all that is needed. _________________ 1993 Land Rover Discovery
Series 2, Army Ambulance - Pics Here |
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get outmore Cape York Patroller

Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 6176
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| aldo wrote: |
I don't know of any tests BUT why don't you ring Parks and Wildlife and ask them if they use them on their beach run vehicles. They would give you an unbiased opinion.
Or you could believe me and I'll tell you they don't work because I have already asked them  |
Why do that in the mild environment of seawater? I wouldnt be expecting much rust.
One of these snake oil specialists still touts Kanowna Belle as a customer with underground running in water 8x saltir the sea water.......................................Only problem is they gave it up cozit doesnt work _________________
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silver City Slicker

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 72 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| hi guys, whats this killrust that people are mentioning? also how do you guys normally treat areas of surface rust where the paint is a bit thin and surface rust is starting (its starting to happen on my chassis rails). Thanks |
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v6Prado Desert Driver

Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 4497 Location: The Beef Capital - Rockvegas
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| they only work in conjunction with hyclones.. |
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