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D200 dug
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Jakarta Bombings ( a personal view ) Reply with quote

After today's bombings in Jakarta I just thought I needed to post some personal comments.

Our eldest son was in Jakarta this morning and had planned to attend a breakfast meeting at one of the bombed hotels. So this is pretty close to home for me.

He is fine and well the meeting had been canceled at the last minute.

I traveled through Indonesia in the 1970s and found Indonesians to be enormously friendly kind and hospitable. I was regularly invited into homes and offered cold drinks or meals with families. I have often wondered how many Australian families would do this if they saw a young Indonesian wandering past their homes?

Talking to my son today he confirmed that the general population of Indonesians have not changed, they remain incredibly friendly welcoming and hospitable. The want nothing to do with violence or extremism in any way shape or form. They are deeply shamed and embarrassed by the actions of these few criminals.

I was glad to hear that some 30 years later thing have not really changed that much. I am also in email contact with a few Indonesian Photographers and I am getting the same information from them.

Most people in the world are good kind honest and friendly. Sadly the few bad people seem to attract far more attention than the vast majority of good people.

End of rant

It has been a long day I am terribly sorry for those who lost loved ones , I am glad for us it ended well.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's always the minority that ruin it for the majority. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goodsy wrote:
It's always the minority that ruin it for the majority. Sad


Such a tiny minority too Crying or Very sad

Even the Indonesian soldiers who pointed guns at us when we staggered back into the compound drunk as skunks at ungodly hours in the morning laughed and had great fun scaring the living *&^*&^% out of us Very Happy

Nothing sobers you up faster than hearing a machine gun bolt slap home somewhere ahead in total darkness.......... followed by a giggle "how are you ? Did you have a good night out ? Giggle Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goodsy wrote:
It's always the minority that ruin it for the majority. Sad



i'm not sure they even qualify as a Minority: 100 idiots out of 237,512,352 people.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Jakarta Bombings ( a personal view ) Reply with quote

D200 dug wrote:
After today's bombings in Jakarta I just thought I needed to post some personal comments.

Our eldest son was in Jakarta this morning and had planned to attend a breakfast meeting at one of the bombed hotels. So this is pretty close to home for me.

He is fine and well the meeting had been canceled at the last minute.
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Lucky for him ... but I wonder if it was luck or someone know something?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Jakarta Bombings ( a personal view ) Reply with quote

DionM wrote:
D200 dug wrote:
After today's bombings in Jakarta I just thought I needed to post some personal comments.

Our eldest son was in Jakarta this morning and had planned to attend a breakfast meeting at one of the bombed hotels. So this is pretty close to home for me.

He is fine and well the meeting had been canceled at the last minute.
.


Lucky for him ... but I wonder if it was luck or someone know something?


I thought that too

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must have been an inside job. I have stayed there twice and to get in you have to pass the initial roadblock on the street and then the personal check (ie: airport type scan) to get into the lobby.

They will find them.

Such a waste.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must have been an inside job. I have stayed there twice and to get in you have to pass the initial roadblock on the street and then the personal check (ie: airport type scan) to get into the lobby.

They will find them.

Such a waste.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click.......bang, bang.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big leonski wrote:
Click.......bang, bang.


Sorry I know that is a very tempting option but these people are criminals and need to be brought to justice by the law not by knee jerk reactions.

The world would be a far safer place if the 9/11 attacks were treated as a criminal act rather than a reason to invade Iraq.

Terrorists want overreaction so they can become martyrs, I would not seek the death penalty for any terrorist, I would prefer to see them grow old inside a jail.
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