Electrical spares - what to carry?

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Post Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:40 pm

Electrical spares - what to carry?

Hi all

I'm setting up my vehicle (Prado 90 series TD) for a couple of months of touring through the centre and Kimberley regions.

What should I carry in terms of spares, tools etc on the electrical side of things? I'm a long way from an expert on electrical matters so all advice appreciated. If I have the gear, and the Gregory's manuals, maybe I can solve a problem or someone else might be able to assist.

Sofar on my list is:

fuses - at least two spares of each type
test lamp
electrical tape & amalgamation (self-welding) tape
jumper leads

Probably will carry
basic crimp kit
some electrical wire - what diameter(s)???
a couple of spare fuse holders (maxiblade?)

Someone suggested I should carry fusible links - what do you think?

Thanks

Ian
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Post Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:49 pm

Fusible links - maybe carry 1 of whatever your vehicle uses.

Bear in mind, you can - riskily - get around any fuse with alfoil or a nail or other metal item.

I'd say, though, judging by the sheer lack of fusible links I hear of going - if it does, you probably have a big problem.

Also - with fuses - don't worry about so many of the smaller sizes, just up the higher end - just fix it up proper when you can.

I personally like to carry a basic Jaycar multimeter, mostly use it to check the voltage on batteries or charging voltages.... or continuity of a circuit......
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Post Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:56 pm

Re: Electrical spares - what to carry?

ijl123 wrote:Hi all

I'm setting up my vehicle (Prado 90 series TD) for a couple of months of touring through the centre and Kimberley regions.

What should I carry in terms of spares, tools etc on the electrical side of things? I'm a long way from an expert on electrical matters so all advice appreciated. If I have the gear, and the Gregory's manuals, maybe I can solve a problem or someone else might be able to assist.

Sofar on my list is:

fuses - at least two spares of each type
test lamp
electrical tape & amalgamation (self-welding) tape
jumper leads

Probably will carry
basic crimp kit
some electrical wire - what diameter(s)???
a couple of spare fuse holders (maxiblade?)

Someone suggested I should carry fusible links - what do you think?

Thanks

Ian


Mate, nothing is going to go wrong with that 4wd that you could diagnose ..or.. fix.. without burning the truck down or killing yourself...just make sure you have the relevant breakdown coverage ...
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Post Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:10 am

Re: Electrical spares - what to carry?

Wholehog wrote:Mate, nothing is going to go wrong with that 4wd that you could diagnose ..or.. fix.. without burning the truck down or killing yourself...just make sure you have the relevant breakdown coverage ...


I tend to agree here.

Just carry standard items like;
a few spare fuses,
decent set of jumper leads,

then worry about the other stuff you take
what tools,
hoses,
belts,
etc


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Post Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:29 am

I also carry wire and soldering iron and a inverter to run the 240v soldering iron.
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Post Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:38 pm

Re: Electrical spares - what to carry?

Wholehog wrote:Mate, nothing is going to go wrong with that 4wd that you could diagnose ..or.. fix.. without burning the truck down or killing yourself...just make sure you have the relevant breakdown coverage ...


That's a bit harsh...
With a multimeter (or even just a test light) and the wiring diagram from a gregorys manual, you can sort out a whole host of issues - even on a TD Prado.
What happens when something like a headlight relay gives up? Someone with even a basic understanding of electricity can sort that out in no time.
Starter not starting? a multimeter and a wiring diagram will at least let you narrow down the problem. It might not be practical for everyone to diagnose and repair an ECU issue on the side of the road, but then again if you've got a manual and a multimeter, someone might just come past that has those skills.

I tend to carry in a dedicated toolbox:
workshop manual
dmm/data logger/handheld CRO (LRO?)
12v soldering iron and solder
crimper and terminals
heat shrink
leccy tape
coax, coax stripper, crimper and pl259/bnc/N plugs
1 car length of insulated wire
long nosed pliers
relay
fuses
globes (h4, tail, stop)
DPDT switch
emery paper
and anything else i feel like throwing in the box.
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Post Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:01 pm

With most toyotas (with ecu), you can do diagnostics with a simple bit of wire.
By shorting E1 to TE1, the engine check lamp will flash, coresponding to a number. Then you look up the number in a service manual, and see what it is. You are then in the ball park.
So if thats what you want to do then try it out youself, and get familar with the diagnosic proceedure. You can even pull a plug, and try and diagnose the fault.
Option B is to wait for help
Option C is hope it doesn't happen.

Having said that. I have rarely seen a bit of electronics to fail. Even sensor dont fail. The only time I have seen any hall effect sensor, or similar is when there is an external evil forces, like wires fatigued / damaged, or poor fitting or backfire , or conrod thu a distibutor.
The there are the types of failures. If it's not a show stopper, you can just put up with it, till you hit town.

Thing that I have seen fail are almost always after market fit thingos.
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Post Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:02 am

These are what I carry:
A good multimeter with a spare battery
Some test leads (clips each end)
Test light
A roll of decent wire
An assortment of crimps (narva)
An assortment of fuses (half dozen or so of each size)
Soldering Iron (a good butane one with a blowtorch)
An assortment of heatshrink
Electrical tape (nitto is my preference)
weld tape
Battery terminal and a couple of the eyes for the ends of battery leads
Zip ties
Can of CO Contact cleaner
and a bunch of random junk that rides around in my toolbox.

If you have a dual battery system, make sure the bolt terminals are long enough to get the starting battery and auxilary battery leads onto one terminal if it fails, otherwise carry a bolt the right size (and insulate the lot bloody well!)
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Post Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:34 pm

Thanks to everyone who provided constructive comments. I've added a few items of my list of things to take.

The input is appreciated.

Ian
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Post Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:47 pm

Re: Electrical spares - what to carry?

Wholehog wrote:
ijl123 wrote:Hi all

I'm setting up my vehicle (Prado 90 series TD) for a couple of months of touring through the centre and Kimberley regions.

What should I carry in terms of spares, tools etc on the electrical side of things? I'm a long way from an expert on electrical matters so all advice appreciated. If I have the gear, and the Gregory's manuals, maybe I can solve a problem or someone else might be able to assist.

Sofar on my list is:

fuses - at least two spares of each type
test lamp
electrical tape & amalgamation (self-welding) tape
jumper leads

Probably will carry
basic crimp kit
some electrical wire - what diameter(s)???
a couple of spare fuse holders (maxiblade?)

Someone suggested I should carry fusible links - what do you think?

Thanks

Ian


Mate, nothing is going to go wrong with that 4wd that you could diagnose ..or.. fix.. without burning the truck down or killing yourself...just make sure you have the relevant breakdown coverage ...


yea but its usually the accessorys that go
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